1
00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:11,020
foreign

2
00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:16,310
[Music]

3
00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:35,930
behind the scenes of UFO cover-up live

4
00:00:41,569 --> 00:00:39,420
part 4 by Charles Lear in last week's

5
00:00:44,030 --> 00:00:41,579
blog we looked at the Majestic 12 papers

6
00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:44,040
and how UFO researchers came to believe

7
00:00:48,170 --> 00:00:46,200
that they had been hoaxed Air Force

8
00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:48,180
office of special investigation special

9
00:00:52,190 --> 00:00:50,640
agent Richard Doty was thought to have

10
00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:52,200
been responsible for faking the

11
00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:54,420
documents an author researcher William

12
00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:56,699
Moore introduced them to his fellow

13
00:01:01,069 --> 00:00:58,920
researchers and then presented them to

14
00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:01,079
the media this week we'll look at how

15
00:01:06,289 --> 00:01:03,359
Morin Doty became involved in the

16
00:01:08,929 --> 00:01:06,299
television production UFO cover-up live

17
00:01:11,870 --> 00:01:08,939
along with the excitement and confusion

18
00:01:13,370 --> 00:01:11,880
generated by the mj-12 documents there

19
00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:13,380
were rumors that there was a modern

20
00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:15,900
version of the mj-12 group leaking

21
00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:17,580
information about the government's

22
00:01:22,609 --> 00:01:20,520
secret UFO program this group reportedly

23
00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:22,619
used the names of birds as code names

24
00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:25,680
and became known as the Aviary this

25
00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,540
seems to have come from a UFO working

26
00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:30,240
group made up of people who were members

27
00:01:34,730 --> 00:01:32,400
of or had connections to the military

28
00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:34,740
and intelligence communities and had a

29
00:01:39,530 --> 00:01:37,380
genuine interest in the UFO subject this

30
00:01:42,590 --> 00:01:39,540
was first written about Howard Blum in

31
00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:42,600
his 1990 book out there it also seems

32
00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:44,640
that some of the people were open to the

33
00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:46,439
new age mystical ideas that had

34
00:01:50,749 --> 00:01:48,119
permeated throughout those communities

35
00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:50,759
in the 1980s that were the subject of

36
00:01:55,969 --> 00:01:53,280
the 2006 book the man who stared at

37
00:01:58,249 --> 00:01:55,979
Goats by John Ronson these were people

38
00:02:00,590 --> 00:01:58,259
who conducted remote viewing experiments

39
00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:00,600
and went to spoon bending parties and

40
00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,159
one of the Major General Albert

41
00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:04,799
stubblebein went on camera and described

42
00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:07,619
how he had tried unsuccessfully to walk

43
00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:10,440
through walls Dodie seems to become

44
00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:12,720
involved with his UFO working group and

45
00:02:16,729 --> 00:02:14,220
teamed up with one of them Robert

46
00:02:19,309 --> 00:02:16,739
Collins a career Air Force intelligence

47
00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:19,319
officer who claimed his Aviary code name

48
00:02:25,309 --> 00:02:22,500
was Condor they wrote a 2006 book

49
00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:25,319
together with Timothy Goode titled the

50
00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:27,599
black world of UFOs exempt from

51
00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:29,760
disclosure much has been written about

52
00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:31,680
the Aviary and who might have been

53
00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:34,500
members Isaac Coy posted a thread in

54
00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:37,760
2015 titled remote viewing in UFOs

55
00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:40,800
Stargate Galactic Federation plus the

56
00:02:48,170 --> 00:02:45,599
Aviary CIA index plus 92010 pages on the

57
00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:48,180
Above Top Secret Forum adamker Whiteley

58
00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:50,700
looks at the subject in his 2021 book

59
00:02:56,690 --> 00:02:54,000
saucers Spooks and cooks and includes a

60
00:02:59,089 --> 00:02:56,700
list of reported Aviary members derived

61
00:03:02,330 --> 00:02:59,099
from multiple sources Richard Doty

62
00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:02,340
Sparrow Robert Collins Condor Ernie

63
00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:05,280
Keller Strauss Hawk Dale Graf Harrier

64
00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:08,280
John Alexander penguin Jamie shandara

65
00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:12,239
wood Becker C.B Scott Jones chickadee Dr

66
00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:15,300
Christopher kit green blue jay Dr Hal

67
00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:19,680
putoff Al Dr Ron pandolfi Pelican Isaac

68
00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:21,780
Coy's thread provides links to many of

69
00:03:25,610 --> 00:03:23,360
the Articles written on this subject

70
00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:25,620
several of the people in the above List

71
00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:27,599
have publicly stated that they were

72
00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:29,400
indeed part of this group and

73
00:03:33,229 --> 00:03:31,260
descriptions of it range from it being

74
00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:33,239
an informal discussion group of military

75
00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:35,340
and intelligence insiders with an

76
00:03:40,729 --> 00:03:37,980
interest in the Paranormal and UFOs two

77
00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:40,739
in Go rightly's words Insider Spooks who

78
00:03:45,229 --> 00:03:42,900
are trying to Poison the Well of UFO

79
00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:45,239
research or rightly sides with the

80
00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:47,640
informal Discussion Group idea and we do

81
00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:50,040
here as well because it seems to be the

82
00:03:55,070 --> 00:03:52,680
simplest explanation for the purposes of

83
00:03:58,430 --> 00:03:55,080
this story were particularly interested

84
00:04:01,430 --> 00:03:58,440
in Robert Collins and Dodie appeared as

85
00:04:04,130 --> 00:04:01,440
Condor and Falcon respectively on UFO

86
00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:04,140
cover-up live they appear in silhouette

87
00:04:08,649 --> 00:04:06,239
with their voices electronically ordered

88
00:04:11,089 --> 00:04:08,659
in pre-recorded videotapes go right

89
00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:11,099
references an article by Vince Johnson

90
00:04:16,969 --> 00:04:14,400
the Aviary the aquarium and eschatology

91
00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:16,979
in it there is a list of reported Aviary

92
00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:19,560
members similar to go rightly's which

93
00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,079
emits pandolfi's name but has his code

94
00:04:27,230 --> 00:04:24,240
name Pelican and a description of

95
00:04:29,930 --> 00:04:27,240
pandolfi's position at CIA as a

96
00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:29,940
physicist with the cia's directorate of

97
00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:32,160
Science and Technology who mans the

98
00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:36,720
weird desk UFOs Etc at CIA pandolfi is

99
00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:39,360
described in section H4 of Coy's thread

100
00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:42,900
as the successor of kick green as The

101
00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:45,300
cia's Keeper of the weird working with

102
00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:48,300
the cia's weird desk Johnson asked

103
00:04:52,730 --> 00:04:50,460
pandolfi whom he refers to only as

104
00:04:55,249 --> 00:04:52,740
Pelican throughout the article about the

105
00:04:58,249 --> 00:04:55,259
Aviary according to Johnson and in

106
00:05:00,290 --> 00:04:58,259
Johnson's words pandolfi said that the

107
00:05:03,409 --> 00:05:00,300
Aviary is nothing more than the product

108
00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:03,419
of the somewhat dranged mind of Falcon

109
00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,740
retired Air Force Captain Robert Collins

110
00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:08,880
pandolfi went on to describe about

111
00:05:13,129 --> 00:05:10,620
Collins was discharged from the Air

112
00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:13,139
Force after being arrested inside the

113
00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:14,880
security perimeter of the Manzano

114
00:05:19,550 --> 00:05:16,560
nuclear weapons storage facility

115
00:05:21,710 --> 00:05:19,560
according to pandolfi Collins told his

116
00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:21,720
captors that he was there to meet the

117
00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:23,699
President pandolfi also said that

118
00:05:28,249 --> 00:05:25,560
Collins sent him letters with his

119
00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,259
pandolfi's real name on the outside we

120
00:05:32,210 --> 00:05:30,240
assumed that meant the envelope and his

121
00:05:34,670 --> 00:05:32,220
code name in the letter and that he

122
00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:34,680
pandolfi put the letters up on the walls

123
00:05:39,409 --> 00:05:37,560
of his office to amuse his colleagues go

124
00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:39,419
rightly references a section in the

125
00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:41,699
black World exempt from disclosure where

126
00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,620
Collins describes a meeting at the home

127
00:05:48,830 --> 00:05:45,960
of Ernie Keller Strauss that included

128
00:05:51,469 --> 00:05:48,840
more shandara Dodie and John Alexander

129
00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:51,479
according to Collins they began talking

130
00:05:57,409 --> 00:05:54,479
about the E.T who was an ambassador for

131
00:06:00,050 --> 00:05:57,419
liaison to the U.S looking at various

132
00:06:01,969 --> 00:06:00,060
lists of purported Aviary members one

133
00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:01,979
can see that there are a few names that

134
00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:03,660
have been Associated by their own

135
00:06:08,090 --> 00:06:06,180
admission and documentation that can be

136
00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:08,100
found in koi's thread with a remote

137
00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:10,740
viewing program called project Stargate

138
00:06:16,670 --> 00:06:13,440
set up by the DIA at Fort Meade Maryland

139
00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:16,680
in 1978. go rightly references

140
00:06:20,990 --> 00:06:18,840
interviews that Bruce Maccabee conducted

141
00:06:23,809 --> 00:06:21,000
with Ernie Keller Strauss Lieutenant

142
00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:23,819
Colonel USAF retired and published in

143
00:06:29,809 --> 00:06:27,360
1985 in an article titled Hawk Tales

144
00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:29,819
starting on page 59 of the article

145
00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,580
Keller Strauss referred to only as Hawk

146
00:06:36,890 --> 00:06:34,319
by Maccabee describes getting

147
00:06:39,950 --> 00:06:36,900
information from Dale Graf a one-time

148
00:06:41,629 --> 00:06:39,960
director of project Stargate about ebes

149
00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:41,639
one of whom like to go to the beach

150
00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:44,340
recovered craft and a book where all of

151
00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,680
this was documented Keller Strauss talks

152
00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:48,960
about graph's intense interest in the

153
00:06:55,010 --> 00:06:51,240
Paranormal and out-of-body experiences

154
00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:55,020
on page 62 in his epilogue on page 64

155
00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:57,960
Maccabee wrote this one big thing should

156
00:07:03,529 --> 00:07:00,240
be mentioned to put this into a special

157
00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:03,539
historical context in the middle 1970s

158
00:07:09,290 --> 00:07:06,240
the CIA established a top secret program

159
00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:09,300
to investigate remote viewing Maccabee

160
00:07:13,969 --> 00:07:11,100
describes that some remote viewers

161
00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:13,979
reported seeing UFOs and tells the

162
00:07:18,529 --> 00:07:16,380
reader that this established a

163
00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:18,539
connection not an expected or wanted

164
00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:20,699
connection between the remote viewing

165
00:07:27,409 --> 00:07:24,060
program and UFO investigation thus in

166
00:07:30,290 --> 00:07:27,419
1985 at least in part as a result of

167
00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:30,300
Hawk's testimony it became apparent that

168
00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:33,180
these two parallel investigations were

169
00:07:37,850 --> 00:07:35,699
welded together at a highly classified

170
00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:37,860
level what seems to have happened is

171
00:07:43,370 --> 00:07:40,560
that information from remote viewers and

172
00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:43,380
other dubious sources particularly Dodie

173
00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,660
took on a life of its own this

174
00:07:50,330 --> 00:07:47,520
information got passed around military

175
00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:50,340
and intelligence circles fed out to UFO

176
00:07:54,830 --> 00:07:52,740
researchers who fed it back to them in a

177
00:07:56,990 --> 00:07:54,840
feedback loop and a lot of outlandish

178
00:07:59,150 --> 00:07:57,000
stories came out of this that some of

179
00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:59,160
those involved in the feedback loop came

180
00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:01,440
to believe even though the stories had

181
00:08:05,629 --> 00:08:03,360
nothing to back them up because they

182
00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:05,639
came from government insiders they took

183
00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:08,039
on an air of credibility with a Majestic

184
00:08:12,589 --> 00:08:10,800
12 papers in the public discourse that a

185
00:08:14,809 --> 00:08:12,599
version of this group might exist in the

186
00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:14,819
present day didn't seem that far-fetched

187
00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:17,280
this all set the stage for the wild

188
00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:19,319
tales that were going to be presented as

189
00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:21,720
fact by credible seeming sources in

190
00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:23,940
front of millions of viewers on UFO

191
00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:27,120
cover-up live because more in chandera

192
00:08:30,770 --> 00:08:28,620
were the ones who brought the Majestic

193
00:08:32,990 --> 00:08:30,780
12 documents to the Public's attention

194
00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:33,000
because they seem to be in touch with a

195
00:08:37,310 --> 00:08:35,520
secret group of government insiders they

196
00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:37,320
were scheduled to be the first guests

197
00:08:42,649 --> 00:08:39,120
and more served as a technical

198
00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:42,659
consultant next week finally UFO

199
00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:54,810
foreign